enforcement or shed the light on law enforcement. that's ludicrous. >> jeffrey, some families were again the release of the tape. one said the release will create a new layer of pain for many in the newtown communicate. hearing those calls takes us back to a day of horror and tragedy. by releasing the tape, do you think, that we're forcing them to relive this horror for our own interests or for what mark describes as our own titillation? >> no, i don't. i would like to draw a distinction between two issues. first i think the judge was completely correct to disclose the tapes. this was a major national event. it is also the law in connecticut that 911 tapes get released. the importance of this issue, this story was the biggest mass murder in the united states since 9/11. it had enormous political ill reply indications. there is a public interest in the public knowing as much as possible about it. so i think the judge was clearly correct. i think it is a closer call about news media. i can see why different people at cnn have made diff